dungeons & dragons – Gamer Peak

Madame Medusa– Greatest Disney BBEG?

More research required. I’ve definitely heard of (or at least, I have convinced myself I have heard of) The Rescuers. If you showed me a clip of the movie, there’s a very small chance I would guess that I’m looking at The Rescuers. If you showed me a clip of the second movie I would also guess it was The Rescuers because I had no idea the sequel existed.

So if I was going to review whether Madame Medusa is a great Big Bad Evil Guy worthy of your Tabletop Game, I’d need to watch it. So I have. I certainly had more fun with this than I did with Meet the Robinsons, but from the get-go I hypothesised that Madame Medusa wasn’t making the top 10.

Governor John Ratcliffe – Greatest Disney BBEG?

I’m a big fan of the Inexcusable Villain. It’s nice to have a “Thanos was right”, or a “Snap Out of It” type bad guy from time to time, but we’re saturated with them of late. We need our truly, inescapably Big Bad Evil Guys too. I had a friend state recently: “they’re aren’t any Marvel villains anymore, they are all on redemption arcs”. Which is interesting, sure, but we need Villains-with-a-capital-V too.

So it’s so lovely to revisit a man who is unashamedly evil. Who sings a full song about his own greed. Who hands a firearm to a teenager so they’ll murder a man for him. Who is still being evil when ever other person around him is telling him to chill out.

Captain Hook– Greatest Disney BBEG?

Is Peter Pan one of the only Disney movies where the villain is actually less powerful than the protagonist? Peter may have the body of a child but the ability to fly immediately makes him a serious threat. If he ever picked up a bow, the pirates would be done for. In D&D, flying+range = a really dangerous low-level enounter.

But I digress, this is not a blogpost about how unfair the antagonist has it in Peter Pan. No, this is a much more important and academic question on whether Captain Hook would make a great Big Bad Evil Guy for your table top game. Though his threat level is a part of that discussion, so we’ll see.

Bill Sykes – Greatest Disney BBEG?

Sometimes, it’s clear from the outset that we’re not going to see a new 1st place Big Bad Evil Guy. What we have here, might be a contender for the Top 10. Bill Sykes is not here to take on Jafar, but he could handle a Hopper.

Monsters, Inc. – Greatest Disney BBEG?

Following on from Meet the Robinsons, my book tells me that the next entry is ‘Mickey and Friends’. That’s multiple movies and technically there’s some villains in there, but they are just goofy versions (pun intended, hyuk) of villains in other works.

Next is Moana. There’s no Big Bad Evil Guy there. Monsters galore, and a great adventure, but no one’s stepping up to be the main bad guy in this adventure.

Which means I get to talk about Monsters Inc. This is an interesting one, because there’s definitely a bad guy in this, but they’re not fully filling the role of ‘villain of the story’. This is not an adventure tale or heroes’ journey. The villain(s) in this case aren’t nice people… monsters… but they only really fill the villain role because of actions taking by the protagonists.

It also strains the ‘Henchmen’ aspect of our little discussion here. The main protagonist is only loosely henching for the BBEG/mastermind, and has their own objectives and motives.

Spoilers ahead.

Meet the Robinsons– Greatest Disney BBEG?

This is the first time that discussing Disney’s Big Bad Evil Guys has required me to do actual research. By that I mean I had to actually sit down, watch the movie and see its villain for the first time. I had a notepad nearby, so it counts as research.

I had zero memory of this movie. I do not remember its release, I did not recognize any of the characters. I only noted its existence because it’s next on the list in my copy of Disney Who’s Who, and no proverbial bells were rung.

Before viewing, I googled “Does Meet the Robinsons have a villain?” just to make sure it was worth my time. Google’s A.I. confidently interjected to state that yes, there is a villain. However, as if often the case, the A.I. got the details wrong. It insisted that ‘Bowler Hat Guy’ was the main antagonist, which (itty bitty spoilers going forward) is very very wrong.

Scar – Greatest Disney BBEG?

You don’t have to be a bad guy to the the bad guy, but it helps. So many villains, Disney or otherwise, have a loveable side, misunderstood in some way. If you want to be a true contender for greatest Big Bad Evil Guy, you really need to have that in your core.

For instance, someone who is ready to commit fratricide, nepiticide, abuse of multiple family members, a hostile takeover that leads to the breakdown of an entire ecosystem… well… they’re gunning for the number 1 spot.

Shere Khan– Greatest Disney BBEG?

So I’ve skipped Inside Out. Following my guide alphabetically, that leads us to The Jungle Book. You know, unless we want to look at Rage as the antagonist, and I don’t personally find that healthy…

Now this being an animal bad guy, in an animal based world, we might need to postulate a very particular kind of TTRPG for this to work. A group of humanoid D&D heroes taking on sentient snakes and orangutan might be fun, but tonally jarring. Perhaps The Jungle Book would play well as a solo campaign where you play as Mogli, or a the players take on the rolls of the animals getting him to safety?

Regardless, Shere Khan must be measured alongside all those that have come before, and measure equally. Sorry to say, but I don’t think he’s going to make the campaign villain Top 10 at this stage.

Incredibles – Greatest Disney BBEG?

I hope you’d agree with me that a TTRPG set in the Incredibles would be amazing. Super heroes abound but heavily controlled, scrutinized and often ostracized. Retro-futuristic vibes. Good grounds for a superb adventure.

The villains in Disney I’ve scored so far tend to perform well on Presence (because they are great characters) but fall away on being an actual villain. The bad guy in the first Incredibles movie is a brief part of the story with very little time to brood or boast around the heroes, but his setup is very powerful.

I’m being vague about who the villain is because I don’t like spoilers. The villain of Incredibles is the worst kept secret, but someone is always watching a great movie for the very first time and its a nice twist.

Hades – Greatest Disney BBEG?

Jafar has sat smugly atop the leaderboard for a long time – and for good reason – but I think we finally have a true contender.

It seems so obvious that an actual god would make a good villain for your TTRPG, but most gods would actual be too powerful. Your level 5 fighter isn’t going to stand up to Ares and expect to scuff his armour. What makes Hades compelling though, is that he’s not directly involved in his own scheme. He’s a manipulator, a mastermind, until all the pieces are in place.

And that’s a sign of a good Big Bad Evil Guy.